the issue was whether or not it was self-defense or not. and these jurors had that question posed to them. they had the law. fanned they thought there was nord reasonable doubt there this was murder they should have spoken up in the jury room. not weeks later after media attacks their. system we agree to live by. >> laura: i don't like these post-trial interviews, first of all. i don't find them to be helpful at all. they seem to be a bit self-serving. first of all, murder requires intent. she said well, we couldn't prove intent. but he got away with murder. if you can't prove intent, it's not murder. obviously we have a dead teenager, which is a horrible thing. and a tragic thing. but murder requires certain elements of proof. stacy, you can jump in here. >> sure, yeah. >> laura: for everyone to say ah-ha look this shows you the system is rigged. i don't think it shows that at all. i speak a a former white collar criminal attorney. >> not at all. and justifiable killing is never the equivalent of murder under the law the elephant in this r